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Shiawassee Amateur Radio Association [SARA]

"Whiskey 8 Quack Quack Quack"    ~    Established: January, 1958 an ARRL Affiliated Club since 1961
IARU: 2 Grid Square EN72wx   Latitude: 42.9819 N   Longitude: -84.1164 W   Alitude: 760 ft.

Meets Monthly: 2nd Tuesday @ 7:00 PM on Zoom Meetings.

You're invited to a SARA club meeting!  7:00 PM the 2nd Tuesday of each month (Currently "virtual ONLY" on 'Zoom'meeting)

Contact us at:   SARA / W8QQQ <Email>

    Page Last Updated: 30-Nov-2021

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Spotter Classs Spring (Virtual) 2022

Use DTX Spotter Training Classs (Virtual) Awaiting for information on the 2022 'Skywarn Webinar Registration' training site.


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SARA Meetings Details

SARA Calendar from the W8SHI site.

Details: VE Testing.

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SARA Club Items

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Michigan NOAA Wx Radio Stations: (FIPS Code - SAME)

Onanadga WXK81 162.400 MHz (026155)

Flint KIH29 162.475 MHz (026049)

Detroit KEC63 162.550 MHz (026093)

Mt.Pleasant KZZ33 162.525 MHz (026073)

EXTERNAL LINK: Michigan County FIPS Codes

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Shiawassee County - Skywarn Information

Skywarn is the network of Radio Amateur operators that provide information to the National Weather Service [NWS]. The NWS utilizes the locally reported information in doing it's real time reporting of weather conditions. The method to provide live data to yield severe weather watch and warning information for radio / TV outlets and the community they serve. When you see or hear 'live details' about a severe storm condition, that information started in most cases as an amateur radio report. To repeat, no ham radio means no reports ~ we need volunteers. The accuracy and timing of this information is very critical for public safety. Training is required to be a 'weather spotter'. Thus the training and participation of 'local hams' is a very important part of the warning system.

Shiawassee County Skywarn Net: 147.02 +600 (PL 100.0 Hz)

The Skywarn Net meets at 7:00 P.M. on every Monday and additionally as required by weather events on the 2 meter N8DVH repeater (analog FM). The weekly net check-ins provide confidence that the system is operating and will work when required be severe weather. If you are Shiawassee ham, please consider assisting our local support.

Skywarn Net Operation Manual ~ Used for reporting to CMEN-MICON to K8DTX NOAA Weather.

The ARES/Skywarn team uses the MICON system "Net Operation Procedures" manual to provide the correct data in an efficient manner. This is the method used for the radio Skywarn net operations in the Shiawassee county area and for the reporting data into the MICON network (SE Michigan). The MICON network is led by the DTX NOAA weather office [K8DTX] in White Lake, MI. Please printout the manual and have available for your usage. Again, the Shiawassee County Skywarn Net: 147.02 +600 (PL 100.0 Hz) on the N8DVH Repeater in Owosso.

Training ~ Participants are required to have Skywarn Training (provided by NWS at a local location annually) and maintain proficiency by attending a class once every two years.

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Amateur Radio Emergency Coordinator [EC] for Shiawassee County (Communications):

Our local EC is Phil Bates for SHIAWASSEE COUNTY.

  Phil Bates, AC8FW
    Email via: ac8fw (at) (replace 'at' with @)   
    Phone (cell) is [810] 919-9906

Phil AC8FW as our Shiawassee county EC and leads {coordinats} the ARES, RACES & Skywarn Communications for Shiawassee county (normally by being net control).

The county has two assistant ECs, Kevin Middleton, K8MID, and Don Warner, WB8GUS. See SARA Officers for contact information. Also, Dennis Phillips, KC8ETW is highly envolved and operates as net control as needed.

These operators are the authorized representatives to check into the MICON net for Shiawassee County. MICON uses the station, K8DTX at the NOAA White Lake weather station for reporting into the NWS system. Then the NWS system reports to radio and television stations (and other emergency organizations).

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Central Michigan Emergency Network

Central Michigan Emergency Network, INC (CMEN) is a non-profit group of independent repeater owners that have pooled their knowledge and personal resources for the betterment of amateur radio emergency communications in Michigan. MICON-DTX uses this network of repeaters to ensure connectivity through out the network. CMEN offers both 70 cm band voice and DMR voice operations. The linked repeaters used by MICON-DTX include the following key stations:

CommunityHam Call Freq. MHz
BancroftN8IES 442.625
ChelseaKD8IEL 443.575
DetroitKC8LTS 442.175
Frankenmuth KB8SWR  444.025
HollyW8FSM 442.350
MayvilleKB8ZUZ 443.775
Mt ClemensKC8UMP 443.625

Reporting Methods:

Shiawassee County Skywarn Net: 147.02 +600 (PL 100.0 Hz) ~ Meets at 7:00 P.M. on Mondays and as required by weather events.

  "Other Reporting" Methods:

  • FACEBOOK: NWSDetroit
  • Twitter @NWSDetroit
  • Winlink:
  • NWS Chat: Cell Phone App
  • email: Email Link  {Least Preferred method}

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NWS - Skywarn Information

Skywarn activities are managed by the National Weather Service [NWS] and for Shiawassee County is directly handled by:

   White Lake NWS
   9200 White Lake Rd.
   White Lake , MI 48436
   Phone [248] 625-3309   FAX [248] 625-4834

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Reporting Criteria ~ Includes Winter Weather

Spotters are asked to report any occurence of severe weather. The reports are used to better understand the weather below the radar images and help in understanding the radar and satelite images at the weather burea. The following events should be reported on an emergency traffic basis on the Ham Networks and gotten to the NWS immediately.

  • THUNDERSTORM WINDS producing damage. See table below.
  • WIND GUSTS - Non-Thunderstorm of 40+ MPH or Damage Caused by Strong Winds
  • HAIL - pea sized or larger. See table below.
  • LIGHTENING that produces damage or injury.
  • FLOODING, Ice Jams, Bankfull Rivers or Streams. Water covering roads or property (to a building).
  • RAIN - Report amounts of an inch (1.0") or greater in 24 hours.
  • FREEZING RAIN and SLEET - Estimate the amount of glazing (ie. 1/10 inch; 1/4 inch; 1/2 inch - Measure top of ice on object.
  • SNOWFALL - Report when 1.0" has fallen, then each additional 2 inches, and a storm total. Need 12 hour totals ending at 7:00 AM and PM.

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Reporting Reference Guides

The various Skywarn manuals and guides are uploaded onto the SARA google group used by the club. Please go there for the current latest copies.

Wind Scale

25 to 31Large branches in motion; whistling heard in overhead wires
32 to 38Whole trees in motion; inconvenience walking through wind
39 to 54Twigs break off trees; wind generally impeded progress
55 to 72Damage to chimmneys, TV antennas; pushes over small rooted trees
73 to 112Peels surface off roofs; windows broken; light mobile homes overturned; moving cars pushed off road
113 to 157Roofs torn off houses; cars li


Hail Correlation (Sizes)

Pea0.25 inch  Half Dollar1.25 inches  Baseball2.75 inches
Plain M&M  0.50 inch    Ping Pong Ball  1.50 icnhes    Large Apple  3.00 inches  
Penny0.75 inch  Golf Ball1.75 inches  Softball4.00 inches
Nickel0.88 inch  Lime2.00 Inches  Grapefruit4.50 inches
Quarter1.00 inch  Tennis Ball2.50 inches  CD/DCD4.75/5 inches  

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Some Other Skywarn WEB links of interest are:

  Location/Level  Link/Information
Local National Weather Service Detroit Homepage:
Local NWS Chat:
Local Great Lakes Environmental Research Lab:
Local NWS Detroit/Pontiac Home Page (White Lake Site):
Michigan National Weather Service Detroit Homepage:
National NOAA - National Oceanic and Atmospheric Adminstration:
Michigan Lansing - SKYWARN Lansing Area/Ingham County SKYWARN
Michigan Genesee ARPSC
Michigan Grand Rapids NWS
Michigan St. Clair County - SKYWARN
Regional Midwest Severe Storm Tracking/Response Center:
TrainingWhat is Skywarn?
TrainingNational Weather Service Safety Education Page:
TrainingRole of the Skywarn Spotter:
National Storm Prepardness:
NationalSpotter's Glossary: Spotter terms   
National Weather Prediction Center:
National NOAA Madius Surface Weather Map [CWOP Results]: NOAA Madis Surface Weather Observation Map
National Storm Prediction Center:
National National Centers for Environmental Information:
National Great Lakes Environmental Research Lab (GLERL):

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More Weather Related Sites

Includes Hurricane Links

Does not impact Michigan too much, but you need to steer clear of their operations and it can be interesting to listen in.

Click the name and it will take you to a Net's "WEB Site", for further information.

Weather Links ~ By N4TYV a very large list of resources (several hundred 'Quicklinks').~ Weather and Hurricane Links (2014) from Randy Johnson, N4TYV   
Hurricane Frequencies ~ By Hugh Stegman NV6H ~ Many places to listen.

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Some Hurricane Nets of interest are:

NameFrequencyTimeSome Information
VOiP SKYWARN/Hurricane NetEcholink WX-TALK; IRLP Reflector 92190000 UTC SundaysA weekly Prep Net is held on Sundays at 0000 UTC, which is Saturday evenings for most of North America. Join by connecting to the EchoLink WX-TALK conference server, IRLP Reflector 9219 or if necessary to one of the backup systems. Monitor the net during hurricanes and other major severe weather events.
Caribbean Emergency & Weather Net3.815 MHzDaily 1030Z and 2230ZThe Caribbean Emergency and Weather Net was established in 1958 by Colonel Henry Frew, KV4BZ, for the purpose of having a general calling frequency for the Caribbean Islands and their North and South American friends. The net's original name was the Antilles Emergency Net.
Salvation Army Team Emergency Radio Network [SATERN]14.265 MHzThe purpose of the SATERN net is to support the Salvation Army operations in local, regional and international disaster situations, as well as other functions.
Hurricane Watch Net14.325 MHz (day)7.268 MHz (night)Activated whenever a hurricane is within 300 statute miles of expected land-fall. Disseminates storm information and relays meteorological data to National Hurricane Center via embedded NHC station WX4NHC. Also relays post-storm damage reports and other relevant information.
Intercontinental Net14.300 MHz0700 EDTProvides a means of emergency communications to any location where the normal means are disrupted by local disaster such as fire, earthquake, storms, floods and terrorist activity.
Maritime Mobile Service Net14.300 MHz1200 PM to 1000 PM EDTThe network acts as a weather beacon for ships during periods of severe weather and regularly repeats high seas and tropical weather warnings and bulletins from the National Weather Service and the National Hurricane Center.
14.300 MHz Net Information14.300 MHzMore information about nets on 14.300 MHz. (Usually Maritime Mobiles)

Usually not critical for Michigan residents, however a great listening opportunity to hear how Emergency Operations can operate.

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